Honours

That’s, statistically, true of the British Army, but there were fewer of them, naturally.

But, while they were up front, there were a lot of soldiers up front also, and they too were falling in their droves.

I think that the real perspective on platoon commanders leading from the front, in trench warfare, was in the instance of patrolling, as they led most of the recce and fighting patrols.

For anyone who might be interested in this topic I would recommend:

Journey’s End, the the seventh and most famous play by R. C. Sherriff.

(I recently saw Aces High on some movie channel or other, and, in my opinion, is so obviously it so inspired by Journeys End

http://www.lovefilm.com/product/21978-Aces-High.html )

and

Regeneration by Pat Barker

In the novel, there is a whole list of characters who have really existed.

* Several characters like Siegfried Sassoon, Wilfried Owen and Robert Graves were both poets and soldiers during the war.
* The two psychiatrists also existed : Rivers had very modern Freudian views and Yealland did apply his own methods as it is described in the novel.
* Pacifists like Lady Morrel and Bertrand Russel are real people. Important to note that pacifism was strictly forbidden at the time.

Thus, this novel is a mixture of real people and characters : Burns, for instance, is a total invention.

The Film

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120001/

The novel

http://www.skyminds.net/english-literature/introduction-to-regeneration-by-pat-barker/

As coincidence as it, the beach scene on the link, is that of Pigeon Point, Tobago, a much loved watering hole of mine - Don’t ask me why it’s there. :slight_smile:

http://www.adventure-ecovillas.com/pigeon_point.htm

What does a mule her mean?

There was a joke in there?

I can’t keep up with your literacy skills, I rather hope it has nothing to do with your generation. :frowning:

Something rather different to mulesing her, but if it turns you on then go for the mule. :smiley:

No mules are involved in mulesing, which is described here http://www.peta.org/MC/factsheet_display.asp?ID=55 and is the only factual statement about sheep in Australia that these hysterical and woefully misinformed, or simply lying, idiots got right in their campaign to stop mulesing. Clearly not written by people who have ever seen sheep dying of flystrike. Probably also not people like me who love a nice spring lamb roast. Yummmm!

Up until now, this was about the limit of my knowledge of Australian sheep farming:

In the Australian Outback, the Carmody family–Paddy, Ida and their teenage son Sean–are sheep drovers, always on the move. Ida and Sean want to settle down and buy a farm. Paddy wants to keep moving. A sheep-shearing contest, the birth of a child, drinking, gambling and a race horse will all have a part in the final decision.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054353/

They were drovers, not farmers.

Sheep and cattle droving has largely disappeared compared with what it was even forty years ago when I worked around the bush, but it’s still around and used particularly to find fodder on public roads for stock from drought stricken farms. http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2348344.htm

And here’s a link to pull together drovers, honours, and WWII to deal with those pedantic people who, quite erroneously, think you and I have a tendency to wander off topic on our own little frolics. :wink: :smiley: http://www.abc.net.au/talkingheads/txt/s1658163.htm

I’m a little dense this morning after the night before. Are you saying that the droving is done along public roads in the search for fodder? :confused:

Sad that something that is seen as having such strong traditional and cultural ties has to disappear. :frowning:

I’m a little dense tonight, working hard on the morning after. :wink:

Yep, along prescribed stock routes. Don’t know about nowadays, but when I was a sprog even without a stock route map they could be identified by the fences being set well back (measured in chains from memory, but I can’t remember how many) from the road to allow the stock to graze as they moved through.

The fodder search instead of driving to market or another property might be the most common long term practice nowadays as stock obviously can be transported to market much more efficiently by road transport. Some people have been on the road for a year or more in tough times in recent decades to keep their stock alive, but this use of what were meant to be transport routes can lead to conflict with farmers along the way.
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2006/s1848241.htm

No sadder than the disappearance of other aspects of a bygone age in any country. The cultural ties are pretty slim for most Australians’ image of themselves based on rural stereotypes rather than the reality that the vast bulk of us live in cities and have no experience of rural life.

Sure, but I was raised on images of ‘The Flying Doctor’ and ‘Whiplash’. Now you’ve taken those images away from me, I’m not sure I want to visit OZ, any more. :frowning:
http://www.classicaustraliantv.com/whiplash.htm

Well, actually, I have friends in Perth so I might just get down there as I rather like the pictures they show me, particularly those of the trail walks.

Until now, I’d forgotten that that outstanding piece of crap called Whiplash had ever been made.

And I wish I hadn’t been reminded of it. :smiley:

As usual for that era, and as exemplified by The Sundowners, if it didn’t have a Yank in a lead role it didn’t get made.

Nothing changed in later years, as exemplified by things like Meryl Streep and her laughable ‘A dingo’s got my baby’.

I was tempted to make mention of the American stars of Whiplash and The Sundowners, but hadn’t wanted to upset your evening. :slight_smile: It seems my restraint was in vain. :frowning:

I seem to remember a WW1 series The Anzacs, which starred Paul Hogan and Tony Bonner, amongst others. I don’t think there was an American sight.

http://www.learmedia.ca/product_info.php/products_id/958

But, of course, my all time favourite has to be The Sullivans. :slight_smile:

http://www.classicaussiesoaps.com/thesullivans.htm

oh ok…I cant keep up on youre so educated laungage of youres.

It isn’t the language of the educated, just simple spoken English.

However, you are improving. I actually recognized the sarcasm in your post - keep it up. :wink:

Oh well thank you 32 Bravo, you just put a smile to my face:D

Ah, there’s many a woman can boast of that. :wink:

Women do what? Boast, dont think ive ever done or tryed that before.
Dont think i ever heard of it before either.
Germany have Honours like Britain do?
Cheers

What a sheltered life you’ve lived, sweetpeas. :smiley:

Germany have Honours like Britain do?
Cheers

Don’tknow - do they?

Might you be confusing a satisfied smile with outright laughter? :smiley:

Well, yes, but I didn’t want to be seen as being too boastful, it might damage my credibility.

However, as you ask, I do make them extremely happy and laughter is an outward sing of inner bliss. :wink: