I joined the forum a little time ago, but have been spending that time determined to finish reading this entire thread, which I finally have.
A fantastic subject and a wealth of info for a war history buff like myself.
I see the waste of resources in some of the Germans more extravagant designs, but there is no denying their ingenuity or their ability in producing ideas for superior weaponry and technology.
I personally like the turret-on-a-turret idea for useful designs. The idea of a small rotating turret for an mg instead of a fixed ball mounted weapon seems a practical idea to me.
BTW thanks for the link to the pdf download “Encyclopedia of German Tanks of WW2” which I’m a 1/3 of the way through and loving it.
BTW thanks for the link to the pdf download “Encyclopedia of German Tanks of WW2” which I’m a 1/3 of the way through and loving it.
wheres that?
This is the link, though I don’t know where on the thread I found it, sorry. 
http://www.torrentreactor.net/torrents/1601129/Encyclopedia-of-German-Tanks-of-WWII
I joined the forum a little time ago, but have been spending that time determined to finish reading this entire thread, which I finally have.
If you read the entire topic you are now a wiser man definately. 
Just a note about the “Enciclopedya of German Tanks” , is a good source but has been updated since several times, I heavily recommended the “Panzer tracts” series for those who want a more deep research.
#%%! its blocked. Anywhere else i can DL?
The E90/Alligator/Universalabwehr -thingy posted here (gave up finding it -so many pages). What was this E90 based on, and did the Germans take it seriously?
The reason the tracks are so tensioned is simple;the tank is going up a steep hill. The weight at the back is starting to lift the front up, while the suspension wheels at the front are falling to the ground, making the circumference that the tracks have to cover larger. This is taking away to slack that usually makes the treads go limp on top.
Well, I found this. Don’t have that particular book at hand to check, though this says it never left the board, so a real pic may not exist. The factory did apparently design several alternative uses for this chassis as well, those also not being produced.
[i]The T25 is addressed in “Czechoslovak Armored Fighting Vehicles 1918-1948” by Vladimir Francev and Charles Kliment (pg 245).
It never left the drawing board in 1941, but here are details:
It was to be fitted with a new eight cylinder engine generating 450 HP, giving the vehicle a 22 HP/ton power/weight ratio and projected top speed of 60km/hr.
Length: 6.04m
Width: 2.75m
Tracks: 460mm wide, 0.68 kg/cm^3 ground pressure
Vehicle to be designed to cross a 265cm wide ditch, wade in 120cm of water, and climb a 40 degree incline
The main gun was to be a semiautomatic 7.5cm A18 KwK gun with drum auto-loader - both to be designed by Skoda. The gun tube was to be cleaned using compress air and the turret was hydraulically operated.
The Germans rejected the design, no reason is given for rejection. My theory is that Skoda just missed the boat, and DB and MAN designs for the “Panther” were just too far along by the time Skoda pitched their design. Skoda could have also been lucky and proprosed the 20 ton T25 at a time when the DB and MAN designs were going from 20-24 tons to 30+ tons to meet an ever increasing armor requirements.[/i]
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The main gun was to be a semiautomatic 7.5cm A18 KwK gun with drum auto-loader - both to be designed by Skoda. The gun tube was to be cleaned using compress air and the turret was hydraulically operated
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Really nice, I ve heard of something similar (autoloader) projected for panthers after 1945, thanks for the aditional info Larry.
On another site, I saw a model tank labeled E-90, one of the E Series between the E-75 and the E-100. It resembles a Tiger II in turret and a Maus in body.
Does anyone have information on this tank or is it the product of a modeler’s imagination?
I would think 18.5 tons definitely to light with a 75mm gun!
Agreed it does seems a bit low for a tank armed in that way.Sorry but I have no information about the E-90, probably is a fictional model.
Those damn over-enthusiastic modellers :twisted:
Thanks
Here are the comparative drawings between E-100, E-90 also known as Tiger III, M103 and ISVII.
It may be fictional but I don’t think it is. It appears to be an E100 with a Tiger turret although it mounts a much larger gun, possibly 15cm.
Excuse me for my interference, my dear Mr. Schwerpunkt, but actually Mr. Panzerknacker is right: previously mentioned vehicle (also known as the Tiger III Ausf L) essentially represents unreal, although indeed brilliantly and correctly elaborated envision of an attainable further development of the German heavy tanks in a post - 1945 phase of the WW2, undertaken by probably the most open-minded expert for the German heavy tanks, radiant and helpful armored vehicles modellist, and a former tank commander too – Mr. Sebastian Nast.
Please, just follow these links - everything will be completely comprehensible:
http://www.nexusboard.net/showthread.php?siteid=6365&threadid=296741
http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic.php?t=4426
Enjoy your tour!
I would be careful about that ‘Post-Scriptum’ site - not only because of vocabulary like ‘Volksschädling’ & ‘Nestbeschmutzer’ :neutral:
A pity, that you drop by here less often somehow Mr. Librarian, your posts are always very good! 
Vielen Dank, sehr geehrter Herr Splinter 54!
Believe me – sometimes I really am personally depressed due to my mind-numbing, but unavoidable professional obligations. However, I shall try to compensate my compulsory absence with certain findings about… well, forgotten wonders of German mechanical engineering, connected with this specific theme we are sharing here. That post will be connected, with certain forgotten, but even today astonishing prototypes of the real WW II panzer-Diesels, concepts, visions, dreams, etc. After all – I owe that to my old… educators from Stuttgart – Untertürkheim, personalities that were capable to see and to recognize that specific glare in boy’s eyes in a moment when… certain dream-machine is rolling out unobserved in a quiet, picturesque, less traveled road near Neckar…
Sorry – I have to prepare another dry, boring, 35 pages wide report to my Ministry for tomorrow. In the meantime, here is a direct link for you. If you are in the mood, just click on that big white quadrant with black triangle that is in front of you: immediate inspiration for a successful battle with boring jobs will be available - of course, if and only if your loudspeakers are in good condition.
http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/-2j-/post61557751/
As alwys – all the best!
Krupp proposals (II)
Another drawings from january 1944:
Mittlerer Waffenträger s.F.H 18. A weapons carrier with heavy 150 mm field howitzer, again no elements to dismount the gun can be seen in the profile.
12.8 K44 auf Panther. An interesting design, it looks like the Nashorn jagdpanzer, it used a larger K44 128 mm gun with muzzle brake.
A variant of this gun but without muzzle brake was eventually put into the Jadgtiger heavy tank hunter.
Krupp proposals (III)
Waffentrager Panther mit 10,5 cm l.F.H 43. A simple design with a 105 mm howitzer mounted over a Panther ausf D. The gun had a integral all around shield of 15 mm thickness in the front and 10 mm in the sides.
This projekt from january 1943 was cancelled in the next month. The Wespe self propelled howitzer was armed in the same way, and it was more simple and cheap design.
Krupp proposals (IV)
Grille 12, 12,8 cm K43 slf. A self propelled 128 mm gun with all round traverse and “pepperbox” muzzle brake.
It used a screw breech block instead a vertical sliding one. It fired a separated charge proyectile with no brass casing. The gun could be elevated 46º and depressed 5º and used as support weapon, long range artillery or heavy antitank gun.
12.8 K-43 slf mock-up.
Also the gun and shield could be lowered with a ramp for firing from the ground…that is a multipurpose panzer !
