Well if he isnt causing trouble let him be. Otherwise we need to start getting info on him.
Spamming? Spamming?
I received a PM about this too. How can he be banned for spamming if hes not selling anything?
Was he asked to contribute a wee bit more than just saying ‘oh yeah’ etc? I’m not a great fan of banning young guys after a few posts unless it is genuine spam.
Hmmmm, I dont want this place to end up like other sites like the ww2 aircraft one for instance. Unless WE ALL stick to the rules here I shall be handing in my Cards…
Agreed…make sure its an actual spammer!
Oh God! I like that admin note:D:D
Seriously, he isn’t a spammer. Maybe he isn’t a troll as well. On my side I could tell that he’s a teenager with limited English language skills. He might try to improve his English knowledge, therefore PK let’s give him a chance! I say PK not because you banned him but because we are the non-native English speakers from the staff and we might understand this point of view. I bet that you missed this side of the story.
And the same I could tell for Clausewitz/Jan Fiala. Also we have a Croatian (who added Germany at his location) - I missed his ID at this time - with the same problem. What you say amigo?
Okay My apologies, I should be less “fast fingers” in the future, but he is still posting nonsence, wathever.
Hmmmm, I dont want this place to end up like other sites like the ww2 aircraft one for instance. Unless WE ALL stick to the rules here I shall be handing in my Cards…
I must say we are very far of the behavior of the Mods ( if there is a moderator in that forum) in ww2aircraft.
The people like there who are in charge can ban you if the your nick doesnt like it or you have bad breath , there is no “formal warnings” “infraction points” and other delikatessens like we do. :rolleyes:
And other example is the Forum http://www.militaryphotos.net/ I was baned …just for not agreeing in the number of mines whom according to one british guy the argentine engineers planted in Malvinas.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2561044&highlight=panzerknacker#post2561044
Other thing is topic like “infraction points” , it simple there are none like this in other forums, The word of the Moderators is law and is not subject to any kind of revisionism.
And by the way just for the taste…try to enter in a spanish language forum and send a PM to the Mod with the equivalent to “Fucking wanker”, get the cronograph ready because your live as a member of that forum will be measured in seconds.
I am simple man I always direct in my opinions and actions, I never say or do something that I dont like in order to be more pleasant or “politically correct” in the view of others.
I dont like the warnings system I believe that only made the Moderating work more tiring and troublesome. I dont like the Infraction points either, I am convinced that if a member had done some serious shit she should be banned inmediatly.
And above all I dont like the private investigations carried out lately about every my actions as Moderator, like in Pdfs case, I honestly believe that the Mods worked as team, that is supporting one each others, but seems that in here such is not the case.
I am not saying that I am perfect ( there is many chances that I dont) but I am telling you guys, If you are so unconfortable with my performance or presence here you can take the next steps:
A) Remove my Mod powers.
B) Ban me for life.
C) Make me see a video of Monthy Python and I would be dead of boringness.
I too old for change my opinions, If I read any other question like “Why you banned the user stupidmoron in april 2006” ill simply wont take the trouble to reply.
Whatever be the case I am sure the my contribution in this forum both as a simple member and also as Mod is already much much more than important.
I got sent a PM from a member asking about events before I became a mod, relating to a member you banned. My options were:
- Ignore the member
- Ask questions in here
Yes, I know it isn’t nice being checked up on. However, note that the ONLY place I have ever shown any disagreement with you is in here, in private where the members can’t see it. Furthermore, on the only two occasions I have in any way questioned you external circumstances were forcing action on my part.
It’s one thing to be supportive of each other (particularly in public), it’s quite another to have some sort of hive mind where no matter what you all support each other’s actions in private as well.
Your a great member and have/are doing alot for this site. However this is not the other sites you mentioned and we are running quite smoothly on laissez-faire moderating approach. So if it aint broke dont fix it. And I dont think its broke.
Well everybody has their different tastes. My grandpa always said “Instead of the death penalty we should lock them in a room for a year and force them to listen to Christmas music.” Personally I think he was on to something.
BTW PK good job on getting the quiz section moving.
Agree here!
Your a great member and have/are doing alot for this site. However this is not the other sites you mentioned and we are running quite smoothly on laissez-faire moderating approach. So if it aint broke dont fix it. And I dont think its broke.
I also prefer a more calm moderation however the last succeses here let me a bad taste in my mouth. The punishment of Rising Sun has been ridiculous low.
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Well according to my view the action in public of Firefly in this last event are pitiful and non supportive at all. and that why I dont care anyother thing this guy could say me in the future.
Well everybody has their different tastes. My grandpa always said “Instead of the death penalty we should lock them in a room for a year and force them to listen to Christmas music.” Personally I think he was on to something.
Around here the comic tv shows are a little more…how to say…exciting ?
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=e5daZr7_390
BTW PK good job on getting the quiz section moving.
Thanks, is pretty simple actually, just give some sort of premiation and the people will be more interested in topics like this, it must be the eternal human search for recognition. :roll:
You chose the option! He found it fair. And according to our rules which you agreed with you got off easy.
If you and FF have problems you need to sort them out. I WILL NOT tolerate fighting among the staff. You do it here or by PM or whatever. Get your problems sorted…thats the way IT IS going to be.
This is aimed at FF and PK. Just so you dont think im coming down on you!
You chose the option! He found it fair
Well thats is the problem, I dont care what HE think.
My problem with Firefly is that he had lost all my respect, I dont see any need of send him a PM because I have nothing to say. He said that I was doing some shit moderation…I think he too, when erase the infraction awarded to RS BEFORE the final decission.
But now I decide to have a pragmatic acttitude, I dint come here to fight anybody just pure enternaiment, so in that way I will ignore any negative crap.
By the way…did you delete a mesage in “language” ?
Well you and FF need to sort it out. You dont have to be best friends but you need to work together.
Sorry Im trying to get back on the modding track because it seems that my mods spend most of the time bitching at each other. I deleted your post because it was inflammatory. And trust me if another mod made the same post or RS had I would have deleted it as well. I didnt get the chance to PM you about it yet so I am telling you here. Dont forget PK I go back a couple of years on the modding stuff as well.
Insofar as you getting the quiz section moving…those are the ideas that really improve the site.
Not to mention that considering the quotes above I could figure what PK might think of me. PK, don’t forget that FF proposed you to became a mod. I was reluctant at that time only just because your Latin blood. Think about what you PMed me about Erwin long time ago…
Well…you made a post every tree months …and then comparing me with Erwin in despite of all my hard work in order to get the Forum working properly…for me is a offense that have no name.
I will not say what opinion have about you because I dont want to banned for life, but I can tell you that is a very poor one.
deleted your post because it was inflammatory
Then you might want to delete this, for me is demeaning even in a restricted area.
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?p=110493#post110493
You guys should try and work out your problems.
Oki Doki…Deleted.
Amigo, do you think it’s a conspiration against you?
a) It’s true, in the last 1 year and a half I posted very rarely. Did you ever have asked me why? No. End of story.
b) Each of us have worked hard to get the Forum working properly. My way was to make “how to do” guides for users and for moderators. Clear enough? I never ever questioned your contributions to the board but I dared to question some of your moderating actions. It was too much? Re-read the guidelines.
A side note on Erwin’s actions. He banned Bluffcove because Bluffcove have insulted him. He banned him instantly. Well, afterwards, on a misunderstanding like we have now, Erwin insulted me and SAM was the one who warned him. As a moderator you have to be cold-blooded and to manage the situation even if you are insulted. That’s means a moderator for God sake!
I said that you acted like Erwin in RS’s situation and like Erwin you just deleted the evidences (even if it might help you here in our room for justifying your reaction). Ask GS and FW for further references.
c) Typical for your way of thinking. Why on earth should you be banned for showing your feelings here in our room? It might be insults, I don’t care and I’ll not consider myself insulted if so. So go on.
Sorry it’s not my call. Please ask GS.
Well GS was fast fingered so if you PK might want to quote you
So act accordingly. Right now I’m still your chief mod. If you like so much iron-hand moderation let’s start with yourself. So act exactly like you suggested in the other thread.
Hi PK.
Its true, I did propose you as a Mod and overall I have been mighty pleased with that proposal, your contribution and your Modding. I’m not into what you think about me, never was, never will be, same goes for all here. If you dont like me, hey I’m a big boy and can live with that. I’ve worked very well with countless guys I have disliked in the past, not that I dislike you, its actually the contrary as I do like you.
Nevertheless, what I did when I reversed the infraction was fair, I stand by it. I think what you did was wrong. Hey Ive done wrong too in the past and admitted it. Maybe I should have an infraction too, I dunno, up to Dani and GS I suppose.
At the end of the day, we have to be seen to be fair to everyone, its oft said that we work for the members, I believe it and try to be a fair and impartial Mod. Unfortunately, at times, you seem to loose your way a wee bit there. Thats OK too, but when you lose it with a guy who has been a good contributor to the site and delete his evidence of insults then what do we have to go on?
I’m sorry if I upset you on the main boards but felt your action was way too hard on RS.
As to Dani, he has been an excellent Mod here and I dont think his recent record should be allowed to taint his overall contribution, after all, we do this because we want to and not because we have to.
If you think my style is bad please find me a replacement and I will gladly stand down as I dont really need the hassle for what I thought was the right thing to do.
Cheers.
FF
So act accordingly. Right now I’m still your chief mod. If you like so much iron-hand moderation let’s start with yourself. So act exactly like you suggested in the other thread.
Dani, if you dont want me more as a Mod you just need to press the right buttons, I do prefer being Moderator but if you think I should not…no big drama.
The average member here have more prerrogatives than the moderators so…:rolleyes:
No mate. We are all equal, except some of us have given up our time to be Mods. This is something we have to remind ourselves of all the time I think.
You do have an informal warning as of now.
Anyhow keeping control over the mods is your call. And im going to leave it that way. If you seriously cant do your job then let me know. I just want to know what you are doing.
On another note…Bold because its important. All threads to the archive room should be locked. So at the end of the year you lock then move. Archives are reopened at the request of members but to keep things clear all threads in archive sections are locked.