It’s a shame that most of that article is wrong, particularly concerning the DeLisle. The photos they are using are of a civilian “lookalike” (which doesn’t even look at that alike) based on a number 4, and with a civilian scope mount . Even the cutaway drawing is incorrect.
Also note that the silencer on the SA 80 is not on straight.
Absolute crap.
Nothing here is crap, is just another post trying to solve my question, I dont see you posting a picture of the de Lisle of anything else…are you ?
No worry about it George, it must be the excess of Stoat.
Good, but anything german ?
Try these patents:
DE241846
DE231957
FR398201
DE215488
DE661663
there are all old for you
It’s alright Panzerknacker 
I don’t take offense at Stoat’s post. I have known Man of Stoat to be very knowledgeable on the subject of small arms and very direct in his opinions.
I happened to find the article that I posted in one of my books and thought it might be helpful to your inquiry on this thread. But, I don’t claim to be an expert on this subject.
I wondered myself about the difference in the De Lisle magazine in the color pics (altered .303 magazine) and pics of the De Lisle magazine that I’ve seen elsewhere.
BTW Stoat, was there anything in the article that you found to be correct?
Didn’t read the whole thing…
Read it all now, and it has a few things right in it. Very few. It even gets the mass of a 45 ACP bullet wrong (should be 230 grains).
Also, the author should learn how to write in the passive voice.
Try these patents:
DE241846
DE231957
FR398201
DE215488
DE661663
there are all old for you
I am looking for pictures of german silencers, not exactly the thing you posted, but thanks for your effort aniway. :roll:
Thanks for the heads up Stoat.
PK, each of those patents contains drawings. Look them up. Try www.espacenet.org (it might be.net or.com. Try it)
PK, I do wish you’d cool your Latina spirit before going off on one at times.
Combat and Survival is one of the biggest load of garbage magazines going. It is often sensationalist, and (as MoS points out) it’s writers tend to write in an excitable way. You can almost imagine them drooling as they write about things they could only do in their dreams.
Trust me I’ve read several. And practically wet myself, this one time they were advising on how to cam up your rifle, and paint it and add bipods. Yeah, I thought. The Armourer is going love that when you hand it back in!!!
And the info on military divers, and you shouldn’t use this or that knife. Because everyone that reads this mag has a submarine handy!!! 
Anyway, I am hunting down the De Lisle info, but the de lisle was not produced with a velvet lined case collector, to my knowledge so far. My reasons for this would be…
it is bolt action, if you don’t want the cartridge to come out, then just don’t work the bolt.
If you need to fire a second shot, then they know you here, if they know you are here, they WILL find where you were.
I am wondering at the moment on the complexities of dragging a spent case over the live mags, for disposal in the rear area. Not to mention stoppages. Not to mention the much easier expedients of attaching other methods of catching cases.
The picture in the book also shows a collapsable stock. Only ONE was ever made like that, but the book claims several were made like that, and that Sterling (as in the SMG) made some. They didn’t, although I would believe that the SAS or others modded the de lisles to take the SMG folding stock. Others did have detachable wooden stocks.
PK, I do wish you’d cool your Latina spirit before going off on one at times
Latina ? I am not a female, you better dont try spanish, it make look stupid. :rolleyes:
I think the subject on the british weapons is pretty much covered, the thing wich remain a little misterious is the german silncers.
Thats because they made bugger all of them. In the book “Sturmgewehr from firepower to striking power” there is mention of a silencer project in late 1944. As far as the book went it was never completed.
Otherwise I have seen a reference to a silencer made by the Germans that was a copy of the Russian one for the Mosin Nagant.
I guess the biggest problem is that they are such a specialist item and so many German records were lost/destroyed it is hard to get good info like you can for the material on the English / US side.
Yea I read some like that, The rusian supressor S-41 wich was captured in some quantity during barbarossa.
But I have no idea wich was the german variant.
Well we simply copy the russian silencer and ad the barrel coupling used for the rifle grenade launcher. The russian system used solid rubber cylinders.
These wear off quickly and must be changed after some shots.
I will write some more about this device later.
Here is a special high tech rifle developed for the GESTAPO. A bullpup, bolt system, take down silenced rifle. With scope and hunting trigger a real stalker. It couldt be dismantled by a simple pushbutton and a interrupted thread. The rifle was only 80cm long, dismantled 45cm. The normal Pistole 08 magazine was used and normal 9mm ammo. The gun was tested after the war by US and russian technicians and was found extremely accurate and silent.
Here is a special high tech rifle developed for the GESTAPO. A bullpup, bolt system, take down silenced rifle. With scope and hunting trigger a real stalker. It couldt be dismantled by a simple pushbutton and a interrupted thread. The rifle was only 80cm long, dismantled 45cm. The normal Pistole 08 magazine was used and normal 9mm ammo. The gun was tested after the war by US and russian technicians and was found extremely accurate and silent.
Beautiful, wich was the maker of that carbine ?
The Gun has no markings or serial numbers, obviously :-).
Oh, I see, I dont why but it looks like a Sauer & Son gun.
