Which Was The Best Dive Bomber During World War Ii

I have no idea what this means, but I don’t submit to threats.

I’ve now answered your post, which is really what this about, isn’t it, pussy whiskers? Putting up another trolling post so that if I don’t respond you will think that you can control the board by threatening other members, and if I do respond you’ve demonstrated you’re still the troll in control by getting a response to your trolling posts when I’ve said I won’t respond to you. Either way, you stay in control. And you maintain the only area of your inadequate little life where you’re in control. Which is what your whole presence on this board is about.

Now that I’ve answered your post, carry out your threat.

PM George allen, whoever he is, and PM George Bush for all I care. Copy it to me, so I can have a laugh. Better still, post a copy here so everybody can see what terrible crimes I’m accused of in your snitching little PM to whoever Mr allen is. If you copy it to me without posting it, I will post it.

Press on, furball.

aly j

P.S. While you’re at it, PM the RACV. And you’d know why if you were what you claim to be, furball.

aly j

PP.S.

As you might choose to write to George allen in your pretend bad English as part of your sad online identity, I’ll help you out by writing your PM for you.

Dear George,

RS says I’m a troll because I show all the features of a troll and I am the most persistent and most cunning troll this board has seen in a long time, which is evidenced by the fact that I am still here and still trolling at a record daily rate and still getting away with it.

This is not true.

I have PROOF! But the dog ate it, with my homework.

RS is the troll.

BAN RS right now so that really valuable members like me can continue to contribute our vast knowledge to the board and make sensible enquiries of the other members to quench our thirst for knowledge, as is evident from all of my knowledgeable contributions and sensible enquiry posts.

If you don’t ban RS RIGHT NOW! I shall take my encyclopaedic knowledge of WWII to another site where it will be properly appreciated, such as here http://fuckwit.wikispaces.com/

Yours sincerely

alj j

P.S. I have PROOF that I am aly j and not a troll as my profile picture is clearly that of a 26 year old girl who looks nothing like a troll or even anyone with an anger or hostility problem like trolls have.

And, for members other than aly j, what really pisses me off about this situation if that if clowns like it are allowed to run wild they just fill the board with crap, but if attempts are made to rein them in it just feeds their trolling needs. It’s a no win situation, as long as they’re on the board.

And, for members other than aly j, what really pisses me off about this situation if that if clowns like it are allowed to run wild they just fill the board with crap, but if attempts are made to rein them in it just feeds their trolling needs. It’s a no win situation, as long as they’re on the board

You see ? some Panzerknacker hand needed here.:mrgreen:

Ju-87G gets my vote. Rudel flew many of his record setting panzer killing missions in the G version.

You are correct , however the Ju-87G was not a divebomber, it was a low level strafer, in fact they had all the bomb attachments and dive brake removed.
Nevertheless Rudel did destroy tank using conventional divebombing tactics and Ju.87s.

Hey RS, Thanks for putting my pic up there for me, arnt you a great freind.
see again, you ruin another thread RS, You thread toll ruiner.
Who said i wanted you banned.
I only complaine to stop you answering my posts and threads, im not evil like you are.
I never told a mod i wanted you banned,. Get youre facts right RS.

Who is George Allen? I think he was a Republican U.S. Senator from Virginia.
He lost his re-election bid to Democrat Jim Webb in 2006. :slight_smile:

Hi Aly,

Although certain variants of the de Havilland Mosquito were used in the ground attack role, technically it was not a dive-bomber.

The most produced model of the de Havilland Mosquito was the FB Mk VI which was a fighter-bomber. It had four .303 caliber machine guns and four 20mm cannon mounted in the nose and lower fuselage of the aircraft.

In Europe the fighter-bomber was more predominant in the latter stages of the war anyway. The American P-47 Thunderbolt and P-38 Lightning and British Typhoon and Tempest fighter-bombers wrecked havoc on the German and Italian railways and road systems, and on other ground targets.

de Havilland Mosquito
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito

The de Havilland Mosquito was a British combat aircraft that excelled in a number of roles during the Second World War. Originally conceived as an unarmed fast bomber, uses of the Mosquito included: low to medium altitude daytime tactical bomber, high altitude night bomber, pathfinder, day or night fighter, fighter-bomber, intruder, maritime strike and photo reconnaissance aircraft. It was also used as the basis for a single-seat heavy fighter, the de Havilland Hornet. The aircraft served with the Royal Air Force (RAF) and many other air forces during the Second World War and postwar (see Operators below). The Mosquito was known affectionately as the “Mossie” to its crews and was also known as “The Wooden Wonder” or “The Timber Terror” as the bulk of the aircraft was made of laminated plywood.

de Havilland Mosquito - Fighter-bomber versions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito#Fighter-bomber_versions

Operational experience in its varied roles quickly led to the development of a versatile fighter-bomber version; the FB VI, which first saw service in early 1943. The Mark VI had a strengthened wing for external loads and along with its standard fighter armament could carry two 250 lb bombs in the rear of the bomb bay and two 250 lb bombs under the wings, or eight wing-mounted rockets. Later up-engined versions could carry 500 lb bombs. The FB VI became the most numerous version of the Mosquito (2,292 built), equipping the day bomber 2 Group, the intruder squadrons of Fighter Command and 2nd Tactical Air Force, and the strike wings of Coastal Command, who used the variant as a potent anti-shipping aircraft armed with eight “60 lb” rockets.

One of the higher risk uses of the fighter-bomber Mosquito FB VI was by 21 Sqn., 464(RAAF) Squadron and 487(NZ) Squadron of No. 2 Group, 2nd Tactical Air Force in Operation Jericho, a mission to destroy the walls and guards’ quarters of Amiens prison to allow members of the French Resistance to escape. In the aftermath of the operation the Mosquito of Group Captain Percy Pickard was shot down.

On 11 April 1944, after a request by Dutch resistance workers, six Mosquito FB VIs of No. 613 (City of Manchester) Squadron made a pinpoint attack at rooftop height on the Kunstzaal Kleizkamp Art Gallery in The Hague, Netherlands, which was being used by the Gestapo to store the Dutch Central Population Registry. Their bombs, a mixture of high explosive and incendiary, went in through the doors and windows, and the records were destroyed. Only persons in the building were killed - nearby civilians in a bread queue were unharmed.

On 21 March 1945, another similar raid, Operation Carthage, again by 21 Sqn., 464(RAAF) Sqn. and 487(NZ) Sqn. involved a very low-level bombing attack on the Gestapo headquarters in the Shellhus, near the centre of Copenhagen, Denmark. The attack had been requested several times by members of the Danish resistance, but was initially deemed too dangerous by the RAF. Twenty Mosquitos were involved, split into three attack waves. They were escorted by 30 RAF Mustangs. The main attack on the Gestapo headquarters caused the death of 55 German soldiers and 47 Danes working for the Gestapo, together with destruction of the Gestapo records in the headquarters. Eight Gestapo prisoners were killed while 18 prisoners escaped. A Mosquito flying in the first wave of the attack struck a tall lamp-post and crashed into a nearby Catholic school (the French school). Mosquitos of the third wave bombed this area by mistake, killing 86 children, 10 nuns, 8 teachers, and 21 other civilians; no civilians had been killed during the main attack. Four Mosquitos were lost and nine pilots/crew members died. The attack saved the lives of many resistance workers as the Gestapo archives and organisation were severely damaged.

de Havilland Mosquito - Fighter-bomber aircraft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito#Fighter-bomber_aircraft

The most numerous Mosquito variant was the FB Mk VI fighter-bomber of which 2,718 were built. Originally converted from a Mk II, the Mk VI first flew in February 1943. Designed for a fighter-bomber role, the Mk VI could carry two 250 lb (110 kg) or two “short-fin” 500 lb (230 kg) bombs in the internal bomb bay as well as two more bombs under the wings. From early 1944, Coastal Command operated Mk VIs armed with eight 3-inch “60 lb” (27 kg) rockets to carry out anti-shipping strikes.

Other fighter-bomber variants were the Mosquito FB Mk XVIII (sometimes known as the Tsetse) of which 27 were made by converting Mk VIs. These were fitted with a Molins 57 mm ‘6-pounder Class M’ cannon, a QF 6 pounder anti-tank gun modified with an auto-loader to allow both semi- or fully-automatic fire, in the nose, along with two .303 in (7.7 mm) sighting machine guns. The Air Ministry initially suspected that this variant would not work, but mock tests proved otherwise. Although the gun provided the Mosquito with yet more anti-shipping firepower to pit against U-boats, it required a steady and vulnerable approach-run to aim and fire the gun, thus making rockets more effective, especially because Mosquitos without the 6 pounder didn’t suffer the weight penalty of the gun. Despite the preference for rockets, a further development of the idea was carried out using the even larger 32-pounder, a gun based on the QF 3.7 inch AA gun, the airborne version using a novel form of muzzle brake. Developed to prove the feasibility of using such a large weapon in the Mosquito, this installation was not completed until after the war when it was flown and fired in a single aircraft without problems before being scrapped. The FB Mk 26 and FB Mk 40, based on the Mk VI, were built in Canada and Australia and were powered by Packard-built Merlin engines.

De Havilland Mosquito FB Mk VI
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_mosquito_VI.html

The FB Mk VI was armed with four .303in machine guns and four 20mm cannon, just as had been planned for the day fighter version. It could carry two 500lb bombs in the rear half of its bomb bay (the front half was used by the cannons). Additionally the Mk VI had two wing mounting points that allowed it to carry either 50 gallon drop tanks, or two more 500lb bombs, for a total bomb load of 2,000lbs. Fully armed the FB Mk VI had an effective range of over 1000 miles.

Late in 1944 the Mosquito FB Mk VI was used to carry up to eight rocket projectiles. The first Mosquito attack with RPs was carried out in October 1944.

The FB Mk VI entered service with No. 418 Squadron, which received its first aircraft on 11 May 1943. Eventually it equipped 26 RAF squadrons, seeing service over Europe and the Far East as well as from bases on Malta. It was also used by Coastal Command on anti-shipping duties. The FB Mk VI carried out some of the most daring Mosquito raids of the war, amongst them the famous attack on Amiens Prison on 18 February 1944.

Mosquito FB Mk.VI - Specifications
http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/havilland_mosquito.php

Models by Roger Brown
http://www.harrowmodellingsociety.co.uk/picsrog1.htm

Mosquito FB Mk.VI SEAC
1/48 Tamiya kit.
Aeromaster decals.

Mosquito FB Mk VI - 1/48 - Tamiya
http://cschmodels.blogspot.com/2007/02/mosquito-fb-mk-vi-148-tamiya.html

The aircraft is from 143 Sqn - Banff Strike Wing - 1945

Mosquito FB Mk.VI
by Stuart Hurley
http://hsfeatures.com/mosquitofbvish_1.htm

By November 1944, MM403 was a veteran of 71 successful sorties. Its ninth mission was the famed Amiens prison raid. The aircraft went on to complete 84 missions before crashing soon after take-off on 17th. January 1945.

The Mosquito Page
http://www.mossie.org/Mosquito.html

de Havilland Mosquito
http://www.dhmosquito.com/

de Havilland Museum
http://www.dehavillandmuseum.co.uk/

The de Havilland Mosquito
http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/mosquitos.htm

Hey George Aller,

For some reason i thought youre name was allen sorry.

I actually put together a model of the mosquito aircraft nearly exactly the same as youre pics, I admire the mosquito. Every ones got there faves.

The mosquitos was also used in the dambuster raids with a bomb called “the bouncing bomb”.

I hope i read it correctley,any way if im wrong correct me in a pleasent way.

And some people thought you and I couldn’t agree on anything! :wink: :smiley:

And some people thought you and I couldn’t agree on anything! :wink: :D[/QUOTE]

Carry on Guys :wink:

George, this is not helpful.

Have you forgotten what happened the last time PK and I carried on? :wink: :smiley:

Err… no. The dams raid used Lancasters dropping a weapon known as “Upkeep”, while the Mosquitoes (while they were indeed later equipped with a bouncing bomb) used a much smaller one known as “Highball”, designed for attacking anchored shipping. So far as I’m aware, Highball was never used in action.

Upkeep was shaped like an oil drum and weighed just over four tonnes (two thirds of the empty weight of a Mosquito, and more than twice it’s maximum bomb load).
Highball was spherical, and while I can’t find an exact weight will have been approximately 400kg.

I know, it’s highly unusual. :smiley:

But, I think in this case we’re the three amigos.

As long as we’re not The Three Stooges, I can work with that. :wink: :smiley:

Mate, you have just responded to one of the many intentionally wrong trolling posts by aly.

Ever noticed how her clearly wrong statements are followed by a request for information or correction, just to get others to feed the troll?

e.g Mozzie is a dive bomber; Mozzie PROOF as a dive bomber was because it dived on other planes (half way down the page); Mozzie was a Dam Buster; is a bren carrier like an aircraft carrier?

I don’t know why you bother giving aly facts as they’re the last thing she (and I use ‘she’ advisedly) ever uses; is impressed by; or knows apart from perverting them to troll.

Hey PDF, Yes i knew about Mosquito attacking Tirpitz with a HIGHBALL,I thought mosquitos were used in both cases.
Yes i knew that too- QUOTE-Mosquitoes {While they were indeed later equipped with a bouncing bomb}. I was right about that information.
I swear that i read that the Mosquitoes were used but i must of read it wrong again. I always go with youre information pdf. Anyways can some one tell me how do i quote a small portion of another quote please, i still havent worked it out yet.

What the hell does this mean.

Panzerknacker Quote- You see?
Some panzerknacker hand needed here.

RS Quote- And some people thought you and i couldet agree on anything.

I hope you dont mean bashing me cause i annoy you too. Thats f***en cruel.

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Wow RS You Quadruple posted, couldn’t you have just edited, your first one, oh and by the way Quadruple posted means posted 4 times.

Um, he’s not in our “good books,” mainly because he just posts here just to whore his site…

Can you blame him?

It’s a spectacularly badly designed site which manages to break every rule for a new, or even established, site, so he’d need to prostitute it all over the web to maintain his pathetic level of pathetic postings to garner the advertising revenue from the endless ads it displays.

The anime / wonderland / spa bath / play with your friends / free now / banner under the main banner is beautifully jarring, and fits perfectly with a serious WWII history site. :rolleyes:

The historical revelations on this site are, frankly, eye popping. Such as:

“The POW camps are prisoner of war camps” http://wordlwartwo.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=germany Who would have guessed that?

“Germany is a Large Complex Industrial Country, With Buildings Towering Sternly High and Cobbled Roads Leading Down All Different Paths.” http://wordlwartwo.proboards82.com/index.cgi/ Which is why Germany relied on horse transport more than any other nation, due to their soldiers getting a thrill on the wagons vibrating over the cobbles.

There are so many other brilliant aspects of this site that it is hard to know where to stop extolling them, but here would be a good point, with the Staff Medal:

A Staff Medal, this Medal is Awarded for Contributing to the Board and Becoming Apart of the Moderation Team.

How marvellously innovative to award a team medal for being apart from the team!