New members topic- Introduce yourself here:

Introductions page?..

In short: Dutch immigrant boy to Canada 1952-grew up and career in Canada-University in USA-retired in Thailand.

Interest in WW2 sparked by birth in the middle of WW2.

Question I wished I had asked my father - when Germans ordered Dutch men of a certain age to report for factory duty in Germany, or death on sight, he refused and hid out for the balance of the war…good thing…but he did not know at that time, that these workers were destined to be worked to death. So what gave him the insight to refuse this form of conscription, which ultimately saved his life.

My pet peeve with respect to WW2 - the not-so-subtle historical revisionism occurring in literature and newspapers now. Most articles dealing with the war and its’ aftermath refer to one side of the conflict as being " the Nazi’s". I am not sure how many were Nazi’s, but I do know they were Germans. If this logic was to be extended to both sides, you should describe the two sides to the conflict made up of Democrats (Roosevelt USA), Liberals (Canada), Conservatives (Churchill England) versus…Nazi’s (Germany). It was not a battle between political entities, but between Nation States. If this trend evolves further, I can see future generations being confused and wondering where the Nazi’s were from who fought WW2. The most recent article used “Nazi’s” six times, and never mentioned Germans or Germany.

hmmm…I must say I too have been bothered by that constant problem…I bet flamethrowerguy the Mod from germany will be able to provide some valuable closure on this issue, but i just wanted to add that I too am interested in knowing why that is. I concur with what U are saying~

Would I? I guess people from former enemy nations can answer to that in a better way.
Personally I think people have a tendency to simplify/generalise. Same as in Germany every Soviet citizen was Russian and everybody who was British or from Commonwealth countries was English.
Another option would be that it was maybe difficult especially in the US to make Germany the stereotype of the enemy - keeping in mind that a certain percentage of the US population had German ancestry. Better to call it “Nazis” since they impersonated the negative aspects of Germany.

P.S. herman made it officer. Has the world gone crazy?:mrgreen:

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No, it wouldn’t.

You haven’t seen the picture yet. :wink: :smiley:

hello all…found this forum and thought i would check it out…I am retired from the Air Force about 2 months ago after 24 yrs of service…looking forward to talking with all of you
William a.k.a. billy

Hi Gerrit - welcome to the forum. My two cents’ worth on revisionism: So many people were caught up in WWII that nationalities were a very blurred concept. FFS - Hitler was Austrian, Stalin was Georgian; I think nearly half of Britain’s Eighth Army were Australians, New Zealanders, Indians and South Africans. For what it’s worth, I think Nazification went much deeper than the Allies were prepared to admit. I went to school in Osnabruck for a year (Dad was in BAOR), and the local kids would parade-march, give Nazi party salutes and yell, “Heil Hitler!” at our school bus. When you consider these kids weren’t even born at the end of the war, it had to come from their parents.

Cheers,
Cliff

Hello guys/girls welcome here , i hope you will fully enjoy the time around here :slight_smile:

Hello everyone

I sure am enjoying this site and discovering there are more WWII afficionadoes. I felt I was one of the few and didn’t broadcast it. I was afraid it would make me appear to be an old codger living in the past. But the in-depth discussions here and like-minded people is encouraging.

This is my second post. If you reference my first, introductory post #957, you will note I discussed my pet peeve. What I see as “historical revisionism” with respect to all matters WWII (please refer to it briefly if you have time). The revisionism concerns modern literature and newspaper accounts making a concerted effort to expunge Germany and Germans from the record. Instead, they make extensive use of the descriptor “Nazi’s”. By this logic, it makes it appear as if WWII was a battle between political entities instead of nation states.

Yesterday I saw another example. I watched the very excellent National Geographic program on the “einsatsgruppen”. As you know, these were the German units that followed the army so they could immediately commence the application of the “Jewish problem” program. This was the precursor that was eventually modified to the more organized/industrialized gas chamber methods. The work of the Einsatsgruppen became just too messy and public… But what got me, was that the title of the program was “Nazi Death Squads”…Huh?.. Nazi Death Squads?..and here all along I thought Einsatsgruppen were "German death squads"…silly me!

Today I noted a newspaper report about the death of Miep Gies, the lady who protected Anne Frank and her family. The article told its’ readers that she protected Anne Frank from “Nazi occupied Amsterdam”…Huh?..And here I thought Amsterdam was occupied by Germany and Germans.

I notice with interest, that when they interview veterans or those who directly experienced WWII, these people always use “Germans” or “Germany” when discussing one side of the conflict, seldom the descriptor “Nazi’s”. When I visited “Baby Yar” in Kiev a few years ago, I recall distinctly hearing the perpetrators referred to as “Germans”…Are we perhaps seeing an exercise in “political correctness” happening here, which as a by-product effectivelly revises history?

Where on this site can I continue to draw attention to, and highlight this increasing effort at “historical revisionism” when I see it?, and to which I can move this Post. There is probably a more suitable locaion for this post instead of the “Introductions thread”

Another question for a newby on this site. I have tried to visit interesting WWII sites whenever I could. War graves in Holland, Baby Yar in Kiev, The Eagles nest, Auschwitz-Birkenau, etc. Is there any initiative anywhere to organize group travel to interesting WWII sites? For example, I would love to visit Stalingrad, or Kursk, or similar locations. I have only seen commemorative travel activity by Veterans returning to significant places for themselves, but nothing for 2nd. generation people like me.

Hi!

I found this site from google, while I was researching royalty and copyright free pictures from World War II. This is a great site, with some really interesting pictures and commentary!

I want to find pictures that I can either in whole or in part for use in various art forms (posters, t-shirts, etc.), so if anyone can point me in some great directions, I would appreciate it! I’m mainly looking for pictures of equipment, without people.

Thank you, and keep posting the great pictures and writing the great commentary!

Nazi Death Squads?..and here all along I thought Einsatsgruppen were “German death squads”…silly me!

Today I noted a newspaper report about the death of Miep Gies, the lady who protected Anne Frank and her family. The article told its’ readers that she protected Anne Frank from “Nazi occupied Amsterdam”…Huh?..And here I thought Amsterdam was occupied by Germany and Germans.

…so Flamethrower, the expert on german linguistics…what is the answer?~~we are wanting to know~

Yep more of the Anti-nazi campaign :smiley: For some people every single german that occupied Amsterdam or no matter what is Nazi , but the reality was different .And you are quite right that Einsatsgruppen were specialist in that , they are volunteers for me , they did it because they wanted it . Wehrmacht and others did it because of the order and knewing what would happen if they don’t do it . Some of the SS were volunteers too but that doesn’t make the whole wrong . Btw congratulations on your promotion of Lieutenant :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

One could argue that Dutch Fifth-Columnists were Nazis, or at least fascists…

Hello,

I am a french modeler. I like to put my model (aircraft or AFV) in real diorama historical situation
You can see my models on:

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jean-paul.bonneville/airkit72/

ya, ok, nice pictures on your site, but I don’t speak Swahili or ZULU language, whatever it is on your site, Re:à Besançon donc!) qui regroupe les fanas …so maybe I could appreciate the photos more if some English were attached to the photos…just an idea…:rolleyes:

Hello Jean-Paul,

I speak no French, but I do have an online system to interpret and a French/English dictionary. I have seen just a small part opf you site, and what I have seen really looks great. Welcome to the Forum.

texag57(Joel Harrell)

Hi everyone,
I am new here. This is a really cool forum and I’m looking forward to reading the posts and chatting. May I ask is it spam to refer to articles about specific topics that are being discussed? And will I get thrown out if I ask if there are any users that want to write history for a history publishing site?

Thanks

Thank you for sharing the site with your models, they were very impressive!

Not at all as it’s done here all the time. We just ask you provide the relevant link (if it exists elsewhere on the web) rather than post long articles redundantly…

Welcome to the forum…

Hello! I know it sounds quite strange, but I’m an Uruguayan enthousiast of all about WW II, specially in the North African and Western European fronts.
It’s possible this could be due to my country’s Army maintains still in use some WW II tanks, i.e. the M-24 Chaffee.
I’m glad to enter the forum, and will try to send my humble contribution from this far part of South America! At least, translating post to my Spanish spoken colleagues who could be not sure about.

PS: Oscar is not only my nick, but my true name!

Hello eveyone out there, another newbie to the site. However, in my defense, I have been a regular on the photo site for a very long time. Thought it was time yo come onto the Forum! :police: